tw: discussion of suicide →
I don’t want to justify suicide as much as teach people how necessary understanding is in order to reach people who are in danger of committing suicide. If your depression was egging you on to commit suicide would you go to this person for help? This kind of smug self-righteousness only makes the problem worse and forces more people who are contemplating suicide into greater secrecy. If one truly wants to help people from embracing suicide as a solution, it is absolutely necessary to consider their point of view instead of slandering them as cowardly or selfish. Why they are doing it according to THEM and not what you think is vital to truly help them. This attitude doesn’t and only serves to shame (which, with depression, only makes things worse.)snipped for being horrible
This. Suicidal tendencies aren’t often obvious. If you talk like this about suicide in front of one of your friends who might be struggling, guess who isn’t going to ask you to help them? Seriously, don’t be an asshole. You do not know who’s suffering, and you could be making your friend’s problem worse.
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And it’s wonderful for you that you never did, and I’m serious about that, but depression has an actual biological effect on the brain; there are quite a few theories about the mechanism of how it starts, but it’s absolutely a physical phenomenon. Just because your depression did not manifest with suicidal thoughts does not mean people who do have them can “just snap out of it”. Your neurons are actually damaged. Just saying “oh I am going to feel better now” will not fix that. That sort of thinking is counter-productive, and I’m honestly not going to respond to you again after this message because of your ignorance.
once again, snipped for offensiveness
I’m going to stop this conversation here. You don’t understand the brain or why it does the things it does, and I’m not going to give you Neuroscience 101 because you won’t admit you’re wrong, no matter how much I try to explain things to you. Depression is a legitimate medical condition. You would not tell someone with a broken leg, “Oh, what’s wrong with you, just walk”. If someone is contemplating suicide, they also most likely have a diagnosis of major depressive disorder or something of that caliber. Telling them to stop thinking about it will not fix it. They need therapy, they may need medication, but they do not need people like you pretending to know things.
I won’t admit that I’m wrong.
Has your neuroscience education saved the lives of those that think about suicide even though they have no neurological disease? Last time I checked physiology and psychology are two different kinds of studies so your reference to a broken leg is like total bullshit.
I clearly won’t change my point of view, but your education in psychology has not taught you that you’re wasting your time arguing against me because I won’t be swayed.
I actually have around 99% of the symptoms of several mental disorders and they don’t stop me from thinking that I am in control of every action I take.